EVE Online: It Has Never Been This Good


In just two weeks back to playing EVE full time I have racked up more kills in this month than I ever have.

That’s due to the changes to Faction Warfare. It’s an actual warzone out there. It always was. But now it’s even more so. It’s no longer about running FW missions every so often to pay for the mass of BCs and AFs you need to fleet in.

Now it’s about everything. It’s about Frigs and Destroyers plexing and skirmishing while tyring to earn LP. It’s about Cruisers and Tech IIs meeting on gates. And it’s still about large fleets meeting on the field in a wide variety of ships. We get our cake and we get to eat it too.

Last night was most amount of damage in ISK I have been apart of. A small part of our corp leadership leads out noob FW players in Frig gangs to help give them a feel for Fleets and FW action. Instead of the vast majority of them thinking its all about plexing and escaping, we show them it’s about fighting smarting and learning how to catch things. Frig gangs help move faster. And it means that if you have spies, who cares. The fleet moves too fast for your spy intel to do anything about it.

The night starts off with a catch of a 1.2B Legion. Poor sad pirate was on the gate with a nice size fleet. Their eyes even saw us come into system, but they didn’t move off field fast enough. Our solo Inty scout caught this fat fuck 20KM off gate. Nice start with no losses. In only jump 3 more systems down a pipe into deeper Caldari sections, only to find not 1 but 2 fat Lokis. One must have been bait, as 3 ships pointed him, another Loki warped to his friend along with a Drake. Only fifteen minutes into the Operation and with few losses to brave hero points, the fleet had racked up 3 T3 kills along with 3B in ISK.

After some roaming and small kills we find another pirate camp. They know we are coming, we know, at least those smart enough, that this is a Leroy chance. The idea is we will die, but we are taking something way more expensive with us. We took a Sleipnir and a Cane before losing half the fleet of cheap frigs. Decent trade, for us.

Nothing in my time in FW have I found a fight as fun as the one we accidently run into. Towards the end of the roam, after reshipping, we see what we think is a Armageddon Navy Issue being escorted by 2 Drakes, Ferox and a Brutix only 2 jumps from our full fleet location. We finally have found some legitimate WTs for FW. After piling on the gate our Inties jump in. After decloaking and scramming the Arm Navy Issue and the fleet in flight to the long gate away, we hear: “They aren’t escorting the ANI, they have a Charon!”

It gets pointed as well only 1 jump from high sec safety. Exactly 30 frigs and dessies swarm over the two expensive ships. The Charon finally goes down. Only 23 of us left we go onto the ANI and it goes down. What’s surprising is that the BCs haven’t fled. They burn off, and many escape point range more than once, but yet all remain one by one dying in a ball of fire.

For 7 cheap frig kills, the fleet turned over 5B in ISK in kills. The Charon was empty. And more suprisingly the pod was actually worth more. With all of his implants, the pod kill was worth the most at 1.5B in ISK. This was the big parts of my night. Throughout it, I racked up 20 other kills later on.

If you don’t play EVE and want to start, I can’t tell how much not to listen to those guys going on about Mining and WH space. You want to make money and have fun actually PVPing, then FW is where it is at. I’ve been Pie, I’ve been Anti-Pie, I’ve been 0.0 drone and I have been a carbear. I have never had PVP fun like I have had every day in Faction Warfare. And that’s the important part. Many spend a day roaming for a fight. You can accidnetly get one in FW in less than a minute.

If you want to Mine your life away and resolve to think that the only PVP in EVE is griefers on Hulks, then have fun. You want to think that PVP is not profitable, then continue running your industry.

EVE is a vast place. And your side of the Map is nothing like my side of the Map. EVE has somewhat fair and profitable PVP. It’s just in a unlikely place called Faction Warfare.

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17 thoughts on “EVE Online: It Has Never Been This Good

    • If you look at the LP rewards of a normal Corporation you run mission for, take those LP costs and cut them in a Quarter. As well LP earnings from FW missions are incredibly higher.

      For example in Gallente FW: You buy a Fed Navy Dominix for the cost of 1 Domi ($50M) and 50K LP (now dependent on your Factions level in FW.

      To get 50K worth of LP, you have to run 3 missions, which blitzing in an a cloaky Ishtar takes on average 20 jumps and aobut 45 minutes. You can sell this Navy Domi for 300 to 350. An hour of work should yeild basically a PLEX.

      With Inferno, they are now rewarding us with LP in FW for not only running the plexes to get territory control, they are also giving it to us in Kills against FW. We are PVEing in our PVP now. It’s no where close to missioning in FW but its something if you like to PVP 99% of the your EVE time.

      Right now I’m not even selling. I’m buying Navy Comets to use in Plexing and PVP. Right now my LP influx is for personal PVP, rather than before I sold the Faction stuff and bought cheaping Cruisers and BCs to fight in. It’s now very cost effective to fight in faction warfare.

      We make bank in FW. At least compitent FW. There’s literally no reason to go to 0.0 with these type of rewards and PVP.

      My new problem in the last week post patch is not having enough downtime to go buy ships and get them to station fitted. There’s so much going on, I will be forced to literally lose all my ships before I go out in highsec to fit up.

      I’ve literally got dozens of buy orders for 50% over market value buying what I need in my station. At this point it’s more costs effective to pay someone to bring me what I need.

      Good problem to have I guess. Need a Jump Frieghter alt at this point. There’s a problem I thought I’d never have.

      • Very nice. The personal profit has always been an issue I had with pvp in Eve. It seems like you can now sustain yourself via pvp, which is awesome.

    • I recommend it. A lot have joined in FW on all four fronts. I’ve never seen this many noobs.

      It can be a rough life. I know Gallente, teh top PVP Corps run constant newb fleets to teach people. The idea is we need to understand FW plex and fleets. We need the newbs to understand how to so we can take systems and be more profitable.

      Nows the time to join. Elite Corps are usually never this nice. There’s nothing more frustrating to a really skilled FC than 15 people jumping on a gate when they were told to hold. Or worse, someone warping to your cloaky T3 boaster. For a short time newbs are being treated equally. On the kills in my posts, many pilots were under a month old. ONe guy was 5 days old. His killboard score is amazing.

  1. You make a good point about pvp in Eve. All people read about is how “I’m so proud of myself because I ganked a Retriever AND his alt in an Iteron V!” or “We all cyno’d in…all 457 of us and killed that lone carrier”. That seems to be the general representation of pvp in Eve. I’m not a pvp’er, nor do I find it too appealing… but small, fast roaming frig gangs is where I’d put my foot in the door if I ever change my mind. In other words “I don’t always pvp, but when I do I prefer small frig gangs”. With the changes to FW, I think it’ll make for some better quality fights and less roaming around for the dedicated pvp’er.

    • In 5 years, I have not once killed one industrial ship, besides a couple of WTs. I have not been apart of a Capital hot drop.

      That side of the game is just not for me.

      • I’m not saying that’s how YOU play. I’m saying that is generally what people are reading and hearing about, which sucks. I think the way you PVP is the right way. There’s so much talk about ganking Hulks and industrial ships in general that the perception of PVP in Eve is mostly wrong. The way you wrote your post had a movie playing in my mind of real PVP players and ships roaming around shooting other real PVP players and ships, which is the “real” PVP theater in Eve (at least my idea of real PVP). I hope to find more PVP blogs like yours and less of the ganker/blob “PVP” blogs. Unfortunately, that seems to be the trendy thing right now, and people love trendy.
        Keep up the good work!

  2. I’m tempted to make an alt to do FW with. I’ve been reading all these changes, but WH life has been all-consuming for me in game. It’s a totally different way of living in EVE.

      • We were in Gallente and are still in that space fighting. I like the Gallente PVP corps. But the Caldari are completely plexing the crap out it. Fights are still good.

        We joined Minmitar basically because it allows us to stay Vs. Caldari and they have completely overun Amarr, so they are getting the best in rewards right now. Amarr I don’t know much about.

        I can only really speak for the Gallente/Caldari front and its great. 80 kills in the first week of the month. I will beat my all time high soon. Not to mention the kills without look have equalled roughly 40K in LP which equals 2X Firetails. Not bad for just PVPing.

      • I made a Gallente pilot, but I have zero idea how to fit them. My primary experience has been drakes with a side of minmitar. Currently she’s just skilling up for the most part into assault frigs while I finalize this wormhole stuff.

      • We use active active armor and buffer shields when we can. The advantage to gallente are frigs and drones.

        We all fly drakes and canes when we BC but Incursus, comet and Thoraxs are all over the field. Thrashers and Cormorants for Destroyers.

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